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Please artists, take a time and read it. 

A lot of people is been asking me recently about what I do to create, how I developed my work, if I have any formal study in arts, or if it's only "talent". Oh, talent, that damn word. I don't disregard talent at all, but what I really think is that's a complete waste of time for us as artists to underestimate the value of HARD WORK. Talent is a given, Hard work is coachable, and that's all. Simple math. Here's an excerpt of text that says it all: 

TALENT
"Talent is, in common parlance, 'what comes easily'. So, sooner or later, inevitably, you reach a point where the work doesn't come easily, and, -Aha!, it's just what you feared.

Wrong. By definition, whatever you have is exactly what you need to produce your best work. There's probably no clearer waste of psychic energy than worrying about how much talent you have- And probably no worry more common. 

Talent, if it is anything, is a gift, and nothing of the artist's own making. (…) Talent may get someone off the starting blocks faster, but without a sense of direction, or a goal to strive for, it won't count for much. (…) Even at best, talent remains a constant, and those who rely upon that gift alone, without developing further, peak quickly and soon fade to obscurity. (…) Artists get better by sharpening their skills, or by acquiring new ones; they get better by learning to work, and by learning from their work. They commit themselves to the work of their heart, and act upon that commitment. (…) What you end up caring about is what you DO, not WHETHER THE DOING CAME, hard or easy."
(Extracted from "Art & Fear"- David Bayles & Ted Orland)

There's no secret formula for evolving in art (sorry for that if you were expecting for one). I just study and draw everyday, and by everyday I mean every-single-day. If you're not a Frank Frazetta, a Da Vinci or a Kim Jung-Gi, I really suggest you start doing the same. 

If there's anything to talk about Talent, that's it. And this book is an amazing read if you ever had any questions about a life as an artist, and all it carries within. Go get a copy, and you won't regret yourself :)
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RaeCabaret Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014   General Artist
Although I understand this wisdom you've shared, we can't forget that every one has their own take on the term 'talent'. I guess it depends on the context of the compliment but when it comes down to it, the viewer is open enough to express their awe of your work whether or not you were given this gift or if you worked yourself to this level of skill. The ego will cast a shadow on this light of good intent and create a negative energy that can possibly make you loose focus on what's really important here. 
Maybe the aggression behind hearing such comment is what drives you to work harder. Again, it just goes back to what your reality of the situation is. 
In all, your advice is great and very inspiring. A lot of people take "work hard, play hard" too literal and reach a point of stagnation that only diligence can conquer, whether they're 'talented' or 'skilled-by-persistance'. It's a rough journey but the passionate always prevail. :)
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I understand your vision, but it's not the case. I totally agree that people is good intended when they tell it, but the point is that people seem to give talent an overrrated importance on the work and they simply just forget how equally important hard work is. I wrote it having in the count that the human being has a tendence to be stable; people tend to search for the most comfortable position in life. They forget that evolution is a hard work of the nature and a few individuals. 


Well this seems this way to me coz I damn worked hard to get where I am- and my art teacher suggested me, once, I should abandon illustration coz I didn't have "talent". Seems to me that attributing a good work to talent is better to people than working hard until you spill blood. Waiting for luck to play its game and give you a star among the darkness is more comfortable than going there and getting it by trying. 
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RaeCabaret Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014   General Artist
Woooow your teacher really said that? I'm sorry you're teacher was a NSP - List of things Brian likes to suck Emote  . I can see now what you mean by the term being slaughtered by society. There are still a few people out there who know what is skill and what is talent. It's easily mistaken given titles such as America's Got Talent or Talent shows at school. That word is definitely thrown around like a hot potato.
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LoopyWolf Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Professional General Artist
I am in total agreement.  "Talent" is "the interest to spend the hours it takes to get good at something"
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:)
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LoopyWolf Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Professional General Artist
I've just re-visited this post, because it's something I want to refer back to
It speaks to a crisis I've been having in my artwork lately
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Nyamesiss Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Man you just said it.. I've been getting compliments on being talented more and more as my art progressed, which is of course nice, but its mostly attributed to this thing they think is "talent"
Surely real talents exist, but I know I've drawn tons and tons of drawings to get to the point where I am now (not where I want to be just yet, because I'm still trying hard to improve more)
But yeah it can be a bit annoying to have people drool and give credit to some sort of free gift
Or when You have to tell other people how you got your art skills .. well just hard work? but they don't want to hear that.. they think there's some kind of magic recipe to it, as if you couldn't reach that level without it. :L
I really don't know how to handle these people, mostly just thanks and be honest with them .__. just work hard!
that's why its good to encourage people ^^b 

I always love people's work so much more, knowing they've gone through struggles themselves to develop their style :D so good work man
keep it up! Since that's the thing that counts ^^b
 
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go-kun Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014
While I do agree with most of the sentiment expressed about talent, I still believe it's important to remember that some people are, in fact, just born with "it." And that special something, like it or not, does in fact give them an edge. Someone not born with that special something will have to work 5 times harder just to compete, and chances are will still never reach that same level. It's not nice, but it's just how things are. 
That being said, most of the people born with "it" still work every bit as hard as everyone else, and that's precisely why it's so hard to catch up with them. 
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I do know that some people do have "that" extra thing. But that's NOT a guarantee that this person is going to be the best, the unstoppable, or EVEN this person will take this path in his life. How many people do you know that probably has an insane natural born talent for music, sports, arts, but despite this fact, choose to be lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc? 

It's a whole new level to the topic itself, that some people simply DON'T follow their talents. 

But let's follow your POV, so I may give you another shot about it. Take, for example, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi, the famous soccer players. In a comparison, Cristiano Ronaldo is clearly more gifted, since he's faster, far more skilled and phisically stronger - both body structure and shots. As if it was not enough, Messi had to take medical treatments while a kid because he was diagnosed with a deficience of growth hormones. Despite these facts, Messi won the title of world's better player 4 times. Luck? I don't think so. I think both trained hard until they sweat blood, but at some point one of them made it harder than the other, and in a more objective way. 

Sometimes, it's just how things are, as you said. But sometimes it's all about your own efforts. It's possible to go far with a ton of talent, if you do work hard. But one of the most important things about it, I discovered that recently, is that you have to BELIEVE it. :)
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draWCo Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i agree. the only way to perfect your art and style is practice.
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AlexanderComics Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I wholeheartedly agree.  My art doesn't come from something simple as talent.  It's a work in progress.  Studying books and how-to's since the day I was 10 years old.  Even Da Vinci had to start some where. 
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BlackRamu Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah! This is the truth, the secret is working, working, and working harder.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:)
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youkais Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014
Wise words. Thanks for sharing this with us.
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Ben-G-Geldenhuys Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I couldn't agree more.
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NoirartTexas Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Professional General Artist
I agree, I realize when I draw every day I find myself having more breakthroughs in the quality of my art. Plus Art and fear is a great book ive read it several times. Lot of useful stuff in there. I just found out it is required reading fo the art school I enrolled in. I think it should definitely have a place on every artists book case.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah. I think that these two (Art and Fear) are intimately related. Every creative process is surrounded by fear of failure or unnaceptance, although we never accept it (or we never realize it). This book opens the door for this very important dialogue that should exist in any artist mind during his or her career. 
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ChadTHX1138 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Professional Filmographer
wise man... :)
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:)
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scribblywish Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
Amen to this and if anyone wanted the greatest tutorial for art improvement: Just do it. or simply, just draw it.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:)
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XavierAnimator Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Student General Artist
Thank you, Eduardo.
This post means a lot to me.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Glad it did! :)
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elperico13 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is all true but just the fact that one has to really apply oneself, if one is a lazy type of person, its hard to get much farther and that is my case, although i love art, upping my technical skills is something i gota push my self to do specially if im not being forced by someone to do for like a grade, like in art class;Outside of that, one has to really want to better themselfs.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Well, in fact you're just reinforcing my point of view, dude... If it's the hard work that makes people grow, and you are complaining you don't evolve fast because you're  lazy, that's my point XD. One can only grow, no matter how talented he is, through hard work (which is exactly the thing of wanting to better himself) :)
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elperico13 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes, i guess haha.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Let's do a bet: Just drop this lazyness you complained about for a month. Nothing more than a month. Draw everyday, at least an hour or two for day (it's good enough to establish a good routine). Rest on sundays. Make sketches, studies, do whatever you want, but DON'T DROP IT OFF. Come back in a month and let me know what happened. Just a month! Nothing too long! Do we have a deal? :)
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elperico13 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ill give it a shot haha it will definetly do me good
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
yeah, for sure! Even the big guys do it, we shouldn't we do the same? :)
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elperico13 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah definitely, there's always room to get better, and about your proposal about drawing I haven't really drawn every day because of school and time you know but I try,  but I appreciate your encouragement. :)
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SomnolentAnimator Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Filmographer
Thanks for this. I've been stuck in a rut, and I really needed to hear that! Once again I feel the spark of motivation--thank you!
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
no problem! Hope it lasts long! :)
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Namelom10 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This journal about TALENT: I do agree! Thank you for sharingHeart
I'll read the book (Extracted from "Art & Fear"- David Bayles & Ted Orland)
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
this book is great! Do read it, you'll not regret yourself!
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Kerrts Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Excellent read. Thank you.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
:)
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darkslyer7raven Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Hi, am am sorry that am going to be a bit inappropriate  in here .

a msg to all the people who ask about talent and what not

talent to me is people who are free of thinking and they just do what they feel, follow their own personal aesthetic,

people who keep saying am not talented and thats why I cant do are full of shit wanna be idiots! and I agree with you, hard work! 

people!, even Joe Mad said it once, drawing is a skill! he started off in his 1st comics and he sucked comparing to starts comic artist now, he said that! but with hard work and practice he is now one bad ass mean monster drawing machine! 

look at me as well for example! some people called me talented and I say no! am a hard worker I kicked my own ass for the past what? 6 - 7 years even developed carpel tunnel syndrome because I draw all the time, according to my teachers and mentor they are telling me that am growing drastically even when am not convinced that I do.

one, what you wanna be in your life.
two, work hard for it to reach it ( the right way not the illegal way )
three, enjoy the fruits and use what ever left for a greater good

you just need to hard work.

here is an example where I started in 2007 and how I was doing in 2011!

and I started OLD! i was 19 at the time! am born 1987 and started drawing ( apart from drawing in the end of each and every note book )

so you wanna draw good? you wanna draw awesome? go work ur ass off burn ur eyes with observation and bleed those fingers drawing! and dont think of how others can do it, free your mind and you will find your own way on how to do it, everyone got a way, not every one is similar,
this is how you do it!
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I appreciate your comment, I just don't think you needed t be rash, sir. Calling people "full of sh*t wannabe idiots" will not make anyone better, this just drives people away from the advice... In my opinion the best way to drive people towards growth is to share the growth with them, not intimidating them. Well, just my POV. 
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darkslyer7raven Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I understand buddy but some times they just keep doing this, I said it cause I my self got fed up with such questions.

and without searching online without trying without doing anything they ask, how? some times i get overwhelmed with emotions when it comes to these things cause people have pushed me to the edge cause of these questions, the most basic basic stuff that you can find all over the net, in the beginning of each and every art book I have bought, but they some times ask without any effort, this what pisses me off.

I always admired Matt Dixon as a fantasy artist, I bought his book, practiced like hell to reach a close ( not even close ) level and painted a character then sent it to him for an opinion ( the process took 3 year ). you see why I get pissed off?

but I get your POV and understand it well. sorry for exploding in your journal like that
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
That's ok. I'm just considering that different people always has different reactions and maturing times, and no matter how you piss off, this is a reality. However, I always believe people can change when they come to different ideas... Otherwise what would be my point to write all this text? :)
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darkslyer7raven Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
yeah :) thanks
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onisuu Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
hehe I agree with you! The secret behind any person's skill is hard work and trying to improve their own skill over and over again.
I'd rather be told that I did a 'great job' or 'good work', instead of 'you're talented'~ ^___^
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah... doing over and over is surely the right way to improvement. I can't count how many times I lost my feet thinking about being talented or not. When I shut up my head and started drawing hard everyday, then I stopped questioning myself as an artist. Hard work do miracles. 
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FabsBohrer Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Professional Artist
Muito verdade!
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Vic-Eloi Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student
Apoiado!! xD
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Mr--Einikis Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Well put.  People unfamiliar with art love to use "talent" as they're one word explanation for it all. I've come to hate that word over the years. It's just a skill like any other.
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I don't "hate" the word in fact, i just feel uncomfortable with the way it's used, which is exactly like you said, as if talent was a kind of spell that artists use and BOOM! An amazing drawing miraculously appears. 
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Twarda8 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed.
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dough-cat Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I completely agree with everything you said here.  I think it's awesome you've made your stance on this concept very clear.  Many artists in their first few years of pursuit get alot of mixed and confusing information that only hurts them in the long run.  It took me a very long time to understand hardwork and passion is what makes the people I admire so great.  Amateur and ignorant folks would have us all believing the best of us popped out the womb with their mastery.

Thanks for sharing your insight with us all. :}
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eduardovieira Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I think it's a stage of any artist's growth to have a time where you think talent can do miracles... Men are driven to admire other men who can do something better than they can, it's instinctive. But instinct is also part emotional, and it can be overcomed by reason, which means, having this thought of "I can do the same with hard work and dedication". I'm very emotional, but being rational and setting achievable goals in my pursuit as an artist is what made myself better. In other words, hard work :)
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